Dave makes one of his favorite dishes, one he is still trying to truly taste: a plain bowl of white rice. He talks about trying to train his palate to tune out all of the noise, with plain white rice serving as his guide. Dave also asks whether the Michelin Guide, the world, or even he himself is learning and listening enough to decree what is good and worth rewarding.Who would have thought we could get so deep from plain white rice? And that's exactly the point.Learn more about Elkano: https://www.restauranteelkano.com/Learn more about Sugita: https://www.theworlds50best.com/discovery/Establishments/Japan/Tokyo/Sugita.htmlRead 'Pachinko' by Min Jin Lee: https://bookshop.org/p/books/pachinko-national-book-award-finalist-min-jin-lee/d6ef3fcf56d5a91eLearn more about Zojirushi rice cookers: https://store.zojirushi.com/collections/rice-cookers?srsltid=AfmBOorxDmevQ4M8n5qP8GXobWRAC3ACAM1yAStY-uwY_T9Yovec3cPGLearn more about Cuckoo rice cookers: https://cuckooamerica.com/collections/rice-cookers?srsltid=AfmBOoqGfIxRhKwQYiq9Z5rf2Q1iRdcpLCPwL0a22pYKn4kjEAau92_ILearn more about Providence: https://providencela.com/Listen to Dave's Moth talk where he talks about Michelin stars: https://themoth.org/radio-hour/eaten-adventures-in-foodLearn more about Alinea: https://www.alinearestaurant.com/Learn more about Masa: https://www.masanyc.com/Learn more about the Inn at Little Washington: https://www.theinnatlittlewashington.com/Read 'The Perfectionist: Life and Death in Haute Cuisine': https://amzn.to/4jullPH Host: Dave Chang Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Majordomo Media Coordinator: Molly O’Keeffe Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Nikola Stanjevich, Michael Delgado Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices