
Kerry McDonald makes a calm, compelling case for something many parents can feel but struggle to name: kids don’t need more pressure—they need more trust. In this conversation with Ginny Yurich on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, Kerry (author of Unschooled and Joyful Learning, and host of the LiberatED Podcast) unpacks how modern schooling became increasingly standardized—and why families are steadily walking toward homeschooling, microschools, hybrid models, and learner-led environments that bring curiosity back to the center. You’ll hear why “seat time” and one-size-fits-all metrics can miss what matters most, what joyful learning actually looks like in real life, and how freedom—paired with meaningful community—can turn education from compliance into aliveness. (Explore Kerry’s writing at Forbes and The 74.) Check out The Liberated Podcast here Get your copy of Joyful Learning here Get your copy of Unschooled here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below: BetterHelp: Visit www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Woom Bikes - Go to woom.com and use code OUTSIDE10 at checkout for 10% off your bike purchase KiwiCo- Get up to 50% off your first monthly crate at www.kiwico.com and use code 1000hours. Pocket Hose - text OUTSIDE to 64000 to.get a FREE, 360 degree rotating pocket pivot, AND a FREE thumb drive nozzle with purchase. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices