Project Maven, a secretive decade-long Pentagon campaign to deliver the U.S. into an age of AI warfare, is the subject of a new book by Bloomberg reporter Katrina Manson. Manson speaks with Mary Louise Kelly. Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.org NPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up at plus.npr.org. To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below: See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy