What if we experience loss or grief during our pregnancy or around our birth? We envision the birth of our baby to be a joyous, beautiful, celebratory time. However, if loss or grief comes up around the same time, how do we navigate polar opposite emotions at the same time? For today’s guest, Jessica Patoka, the loss of one life and the birth of another are celebrated the same time every year and it’s impossible to know how she overcame such polarity of emotion at the same time. She shares with us the tools that keep her grounded and how she practiced presence during such a challenging time. By hearing Jessica’s story, we will find comfort knowing that we can experience loss and grief at the same time of great joy and discover solid ground again. We will learn the importance of taking care of ourselves throughout motherhood. Learn how to overcome grief and loss during a time of great joy in this episode of the Mamas in Training Podcast.