In the darkest days of World War II, two towering figures stood as the living embodiments of national defiance: Winston Churchill, the aristocratic bulldog of Great Britain, and Charles de Gaulle, the tall, austere French general. Both refused to surrender to Nazi Germany. Thrown together by fate and war, against great odds, they saved their nations, clashed dramatically, and helped reshape the postwar world. To explore their stories, the MacArthur Memorial Podcast hosted Richard Vinen, autho...