In episode 14, we discussed whether the V4V - Value4Value - model was dead, with a focus on streaming sats (Satoshis) since this is primarily what many podcasters associate V4V with. The episode stirred up quite the conversation online, with some interesting takes on the episode and points raised. So this episode sees Mark chat with David Medus on how he uses V4V beyond sats and the overall philosophy behind it. Links to interesting things from this episode Andy Lehman on X and V4V is not just streaming sats Is Value For Value's Future in Trouble? In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast started by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown and now hosted by Elsie Escobar and Rob Walch, continuing its mission as an industry show that belongs to the whole community. If you enjoy the show, we'd love for you to leave us a rating or review on your favourite podcast app! You can also drop us a tip at https://www.inandaroundpodcasting.com/support, too! If you're an independent creator who would like to co-host with us, please let us know via Twitter and we'll get you booked! Please tell your friends that the show is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube, plus wherever else they may listen to their podcasts. If you'd like your podcast trailer featuring in our "Wave File" segment, submit it via this quick contact form, please. The podcast is also available at In & Around Podcasting. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy