Continuing their conversation, Dr. Robert Sege, Dr. Baraka Floyd, and guest Dr. Bruce Perry discuss using the HOPE framework in practical, everyday ways to interact with children. They highlight how brief, in-person moments of connection can calm stress responses and support healthy development. Practical takeaways include the four P's (present, parallel, patient, persistent), the power of proximity and social contagion, simple activities, and the "bubble of effectiveness" strategy to combat burnout and maximize impact, even in short encounters. For more on the HOPE framework, visit positiveexperience.org.