Dr Philip Smith, Digital and Education Editor of Gut and Honorary Consultant Gastroenterologist at the Royal Liverpool Hospital, Liverpool, UK interviews Professor Tao Zuo from the Guangdong Institute of Gastroenterology, The Sixth Affiliated Hospital of Sun Yat-sen University, Sun Yat-sen University, Guangzhou, Guangdong, China, on the paper " Dietary whey protein protects against Crohn’s disease by orchestrating cross-kingdom interaction between the gut phageome and bacteriome " published in paper copy in Gut in August 2025. Please subscribe to the Gut podcast on your favourite platform to get the latest podcast every month. If you enjoy our podcast, you can leave us a review or a comment on Apple Podcasts ( https://apple.co/3UOTwqS ) or Spotify ( https://spoti.fi/3Ifxq9p ).