How do you navigate mean people without becoming mean yourself? How do you heal once you realize that the first mean girl you ever met was the woman who raised you? Join Kari as she talks to NYT bestselling author Melanie Shankle for a deep-dive conversation about Melanie's latest work for girl moms - and the hope that's possible on the other side of friend or family trauma. Ep. 90 Show Notes: o Pre-order Melanie's new book, coming Feb.