Today's episode is bringing back friend of the pod, Helena Bottemiller Evich, Founder and Editor-in-chief at Food Fix, one the sharpest food policy sources to exist. We're also joined by her colleague and policy wonk, Theodore Ross, Editor-in-chief of The Food and Environment Reporting Network. Helena and Theodore together have been monitoring RFK's MAHA movement, and we come back to check in on where MAHA is going, if anywhere. Turns out there may be a hint of policy thesis somewhere in there, and we try to tease it out. Also, we attempt to define the paradox that seems to be brewing in HHS that will eventually come to head. You can learn more about MAHA, food policy, and our guests on Helena and Theodore's very own pod, Forked. [https://thefern.org/podcasts/forked] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices