In this episode of Earned, CreatorIQ CMO Brit Starr sits down with Frank Dudley—marketing leader, Northwestern professor, and author of an upcoming Wiley book on Creator Marketing and Commerce Media—to unpack why the industry's shift from influencer marketing to creator marketing is more than semantics. Frank argues that creators aren't a channel; they're the connective tissue across the customer choice journey, orchestrating demand from awareness through conversion in a dynamic, signal-driven system. Brit and Frank explore how this reframing helps brands move beyond siloed campaigns and start designing creator programs around jobs to be done: removing real consumer friction like confusion, skepticism, inertia, and perceived risk. Frank shares concrete examples—Dyson using explainer creators to demystify product claims, Sephora leaning on creators for mid-funnel confidence like shade matching, and Instacart creators driving lower-funnel utility through speed, substitutions, and savings. The conversation also dives into measurement, including why the market is shifting toward incrementality over engagement, and how integrating creators with commerce and paid amplification enables closed-loop learning and attributable impact. Finally, Frank breaks down the unglamorous—but essential—operational infrastructure required to scale: creative supply chains, decisioning layers, and data/legal ops. The takeaway: creator marketing isn't a tactic—it's a full-funnel operating system CMOs can roadmap. In this episode, you'll learn: How creators are now the engine behind modern targeting and demand creation The shift from disconnected creator efforts to coordinated marketing systems How creator programs contribute to measurable revenue outcomes Connect with the Guest: Frank's LinkedIn - @fdudley Connect with Brit Starr & CreatorIQ: Brit's LinkedIn - @britmccorquodale CreatorIQ LinkedIn - @creatoriq Follow us on social: CreatorIQ YouTube - @CreatorIQOfficial CreatorIQ Instagram - @creatoriq CreatorIQ TikTok - @creator.iq CreatorIQ Twitter - @CreatorIQ