In this episode, we talk with Mike Whitenton, Director of Academic Initiatives at Interfaith America (IA). Mike works at the intersection of rhetoric, religious narrative, and cognitive science to help educators create classroom spaces where students can engage meaningfully across differences. Our conversation explores what pluralism means in practice and how it intersects with existing research and practice to foster inclusivity and belonging in the classroom. Mike introduces listeners to the three core principles of pluralism: Respect for diverse identities (even those that make us uncomfortable); Relate to those around us in a way that is genuine and mutually enriching; and Cooperate together in the service of the common good. Rather than avoiding disagreement, pluralism asks us to lean into it intentionally. In an educational environment, this means giving students structured opportunities to develop empathy, practice perspective-taking, and build bridges before they encounter real-world conflicts. By creating low-stakes opportunities for students to engage with divergent perspectives, we help them develop the skills they'll need long after they leave our classrooms. Learn more about Interfaith America: https://www.interfaithamerica.org/ Other materials referenced in this episode: Eck, D. L. (n.d.). The Pluralism Project. Harvard University. https://pluralism.org/ Ed Up Experience Podcast [Audio podcast]. https://www.edupexperience.com/ Interfaith America. (n.d.). (n.d.). Pluralism Texts Bibliography. (n.d.). Teaching & Learning Pluralism Cohort. (1909). The melting-pot: Drama in four acts. Macmillan.