What is heaven really like beyond clouds and harps? In this compelling episode, John and Lisa unpack the breathtaking reality of God’s heavenly city—a magnificent 1,400-mile-wide dwelling that will one day descend to earth. Drawing from Scripture and powerful near-death testimonies, they paint a picture of eternity that is vibrant, tangible, and far more extraordinary than we’ve imagined. If you’ve ever wrestled with questions about eternity or felt a longing this world can’t satisfy, this conversation will expand your vision and fill you with fresh hope for your eternal home.