Michelle Battersby is back, and a lot has changed! Since we last spoke, she’s sold her startup Sunroom, stepped into a new role as President of Peanut, and welcomed her second child. We get into her experience of being a mum and that transition, before unpacking why the “girl boss” conversation is suddenly back in the headlines and why it needs a serious rethink when motherhood enters the equation. Michelle opens up about the tension so many women feel between wanting a career and wanting to be present as a parent, and how financial pressure (especially Australia’s obsession with home ownership) shapes the risks we feel able to take. Plus, she shares why she’s campaigning to get 'matrescence' recognised in the dictionary. Matresence is the profound psychological and neurological shift that happens during and after pregnancy, and how its insane we haven't all known the word for it. Big Small Talk Instagram Sarah-Jane's Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.