Crushed by the welfare-fraud scandal in Minnesota, Governor Tim Walz-- Kamala Harris’s 2024 running mate --has ended his run for a third term and put his political career on pause. The Trump administration is meanwhile cracking down on Minnesota's fraud-riddled program. What does the scandal mean for the state, the federal antipoverty machinery, and upcoming midterm politics? On this episode All Things, Kim Strassel speaks with former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, who unpacks the state's specific welfare problems, ties in Joe Biden's failed border policy, and places bets on next year's Minnesota gubernatorial race. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices